When Varitek is in the game, Francona isn't going to PH for him, no matter which way he's turned. And given his current crush on Green, he won't PH
for him either. When he'll pinch hit is when one of his bench players (Lugo, Baldelli, Kottaras) starts and the need arises late in the game. That's
probably the only time at this point. And under those circumstances he'd have Varitek or Drew on the bench to PH.
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Lester pitched really really good. He allowed 5 hits and three of them are chip shots and No walks.
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Agreed about Lester. But did Francona really have to use 4 relievers to cover 2 innings in a game where the O's never scored? Yes, I know, he wants to get
the best matchups, change before a guy really gets us into trouble, etc., but if this pen is so frickin' good, why keep rotating guys at the first whiff of
any kind of situation? It's this type of intensive use that could catch up to this pen at the end of the year.
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I also wonder why Francona uses so many relievers. Perhaps there is an alternate theory that relievers can handle more outings if they throw fewer pitches per
outing?
Jim Palmer was very high on Lester tonight, calling him the best lefthand starter in the American League. He also likes Delcarmen a lot, again saying that Delcarmen could be a starter. Before the game Palmer called it a "B" game because of the Oriole starting pitcher, basically conceding in advance. If he were not Jim Palmer he probably could not get away with some of his comments. He does make the Oriole telecasts more interesting, and so much better than the Nationals. It was absolute torture listening to those guys last week. I finally put on the Red Sox audio over the Internet, even though it doesn't sync with either the television broadcast or Game Day. |
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We should all be thankful for truth-sayers like Palmer. And you're right, he can only do it because he is who he is. Here's hoping he'll have a lot
more to talk about in the years to come when it comes to the Orioles, despite what that might mean for the Sox. Baltimore is doing it right, putting it
together one brick at a time. One very solid "brick" is Adam Jones. That was the easiest looking big play I've seen in a while. He might as well
have jumped off the sofa, the way he casually dropped back to jump over the fence and pull Youkilis' shot back. What a player. Mariner's fans will be a
long time in forgiving the front office.
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If he were not Jim Palmer he probably could not get away with some of his comments. He does make the Oriole telecasts more interesting, Palmer is so much better at calling a game and pulls no punches with what he see. Old Orioles TV announcer Mel Proctor (late 80's-early 90's) was one of those bad homers that made you want turn the volume off. I wonder if Ramirez has some kind of block that he just cannot get anything done in the 9th inning? This is 2 for 2 now with him putting guys on and having trouble, the blown save in Philly and here in Baltimore with his wildness and Papelbon having to come in and get the "cheap" save. |
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Per the Globe this afternoon, Jeff Bailey is in Baltimore in case the Sox decide to put Lowell on the DL.
As of this AM the plan for the lineup tonight was to have Green at 3B, Lugo at SS and Baldelli in RF. I think Bailey at 1B, Youk at 3B and Green at SS would be a better plan. |
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1. Julio Lugo, SS
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B 3. Kevin Youkilis, 3B 4. Jason Bay, LF 5. David Ortiz, DH 6. Jason Varitek, C 7. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF 8. Rocco Baldelli, RF 9. Jeff Bailey, 1B SP -- John Smoltz, RHP
I'll be there, watching the Sox representation of mid-rotation starters. -TheGoldenGreek33 on Casey Kelly
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My guess is that Bailey is the 1B (yes, I realize it was copied from the Globe)
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I made that change. He should be at first tonight.
I'll be there, watching the Sox representation of mid-rotation starters. -TheGoldenGreek33 on Casey Kelly
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If I were Smoltz, I'd be looking around me and thinking "Where is this powerhouse team that I signed with over the winter??"
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ancientsoxfogey wrote: Ulysses Everett McGill: Pete, the personal rancor reflected in that remark I don't intend to dignify with comment. But I would like to address your general attitude of hopeless negativism. Consider the lilies of the goddamn field! Or, hell, take at look at Delmar here as your paradigm of hope. Or look at the Red Sox winning at a .618 pace in the toughest division in baseball... Seriously, in what world are we not a powerhouse?
"Jonathan Papelbon, not wasting any time, going to his bread and butter there, and that's the
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"I'm sorry folks, this is not a World Series team." -ASF on the eventual 2007 World Series champion Red Sox (who also had the best record in
baseball at the time of his remarks)
Don't bother, it's not worth your time. He never learns and he can't help himself.
aminahyaquin: Alou is a 37 year old 7 time MVP with a .347 lifetime batting average and a world of hustle. he
can golden glove field in his sleep.
tGG: Alou is actually 42, has never won an MVP, has a .303 lifetime batting average, and is mediocre at best in the field. joshv02: But, other than that, you're wrong. |
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When I made that earlier statement, I was specifically referring to the team Smoltz will look around and find in back of him tonight. Look at it. Take a hard
look at it. The leadoff hitter, arguably the most maligned player on the Sox in recent memory. 2-4 are fine, though lots of people here aren't impressed
with 4 and want to jettison him at the end of the year. The DH's struggles have just gotten him to the .700 OPS line. The #6 hitter may have been the
second most maligned player on the team for the last year or so, especially offensively, and people are convinced he seems to be sinking once again. The number
7 hitter is dynamic, but apparently not good enough at this point to be moved back to leadoff. The #8 hitter has a not insignificant health problem that makes
his capabilities suspect at best. And the #9 hitter is a AAAA player.
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and yet the team leads the hardest division in baseball.
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ancientsoxfogey wrote: In the world where Smoltz pitches a gem even though he's arguably the 5th guy on the staff.
I hope not the RS would not take the Nats lightly and aware of what they did to the Blue Jays & Yankees. Just sweep them
by play hard & show the Nats why they're best in AL. -MLBDreams
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I like John Smoltz.
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ancientsoxfogey wrote:In a world where he has the best bullpen in baseball backing him up.
aminahyaquin: Alou is a 37 year old 7 time MVP with a .347 lifetime batting average and a world of hustle. he
can golden glove field in his sleep.
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Pedroia stealing third? The Red Sox (and a lot of other teams) are abusing Wieters.
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That was all Rich Hill. "ASAL is better than me at everything, especially fantasy basketball" --Norbit14 |
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