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This is great information and all, I suppose. What I really want to know, and I know I'm not alone in this, is who will the first player the Sox draft that
will make Temple tremble with rage? Which round?
"Pedroia thinks he's yet to see a pitcher that he thinks is any good," Murphy said. "That's his secret. He's 5-foot-6, balding, can't run, can't throw, he's weak, and it's true. But he believes that he's as strong and as big and as fast as anybody."
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norbit14 |
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I'll predict its when we draft the college reliever-to-starter project.
A-Rod you and Barry Bonds are the best
player in the history of the game, don't believe the Cra**** this STUPID FANS say.
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MLBDreams |
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If anyone thinks Strasburg is special & MLB ready, that's crazy since UVA already knock him out with his recent NCAA tournament game. He'll be
suffer with losing record & high ERA in MLB without benefit of develop in MiLB. I can understand that he desire to get MLB contract immediately. Could he
be next Craig Hanson?
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jsinger121 |
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He is a 100 times better than Craig Hansen. 1 loss and he is now a bum? When you get to the tourney anything can happen. He throws hard, has very good control
and is going to be an ace. He is the #1 pick. Hansen was not #1 pick material.
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TheGoldenGreek33 |
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Seriously?
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templeUsox |
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Zennla wrote:This is easy and the answer is UC Riverside's Joseph Kelly. If he goes before the 3rd round it will be a joke. |
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MLBDreams |
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Any chance for the RS to face Strasburg on June 23 thru 25 @ Nationals? I like to see them knocking him out if it's MLB debut for Stephen. It's up to
Nats for quick signing & developing him in short time. I can picture Jason Bay hitting HR to LF off him.
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jsinger121 |
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MLBDreams wrote: None at all. I doubt a Scott Boras client will sign that early and I doubt he would be brought up to the majors. |
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norbit14 |
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From one game you can infered he is going to be a bum? I guess you missed the games when he k'd 20+ batters, I guess he projected to be the best pitcher
ever then. One game and you already know what his ERA is going to be, what he record is going to look like. Give me a break, please.
A-Rod you and Barry Bonds are the best
player in the history of the game, don't believe the Cra**** this STUPID FANS say.
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templeUsox |
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Some guys who I forgot to talk about on the podcast last night:
- David Hale, RHP, Princeton. One of the hardest signs who I forgot about. He's an Ivy League guy with potential and the Sox have a Princeton connection (Hazen). - Robert Stock- Please, please draft him as a pitcher. - Jake Locker- Unlimited potential and the hardest sign in the draft. Plays football exclusively at UW. |
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TheGoldenGreek33 |
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Similarly, a few guys slipped my mind as well:
-Josh Spence, LHP, Arizona State- Has consistently put up high strikeout numbers at both JuCo and ASU despite having a fastball that barely registers on a scouting scale. Probably a 6-8th rounder. -Garrett Richards, RHP, Oklahoma- He'd be my one guy I'd take as a reliever. 95-98 mph fastball and a hard late 80's biting slider. -Jabari Blash, OF, Miami Dade JC- Power/speed guy. Florida's top 5 tool prospect. Heck of an athlete. |
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ancientsoxfogey |
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Not to belabor the point (well, maybe to belabor the point!!), but consider the draft-and-not-sign issue from the point of view of the Sox in particular.
I'll ask the question from a 180 degree opposite perspective.
Recently the Sox have had their top draft picks, plus in some years compensation picks toward the top of the draft, and on top of that they have drafted players in later rounds who consensus seemed to suggest would have been toward the top of the draft had they not been considered difficult signability cases. The Sox can't sign all such players, for reasons of budget, room in the minors, or whatever. To the extent that some of these later draftees are in the same ballpark in terms of prospect status as some of the very highest picks the Sox can make (given especially that the Sox pick toward the end of rounds), would it make sense for the Sox to put a little extra priority (and money) into signing a couple [more] of the premium lower picks and let the top picks go unless they are extremely signable, since you at least get the same pick next year as compensation? A premium lower pick you don't sign is irretrievably lost; a pick in the first two rounds is regained. I guess what I am asking is, since the Sox are pursuing this "look for premium players with signability issues later in the draft and try to sign some of them" approach, don't they have an opportunity to make more creative use of the current compensation rules than another club that doesn't pursue such an approach? It's a sort of sneaky backdoor way to collect additional draft choices, but hey -- the rules are the rules. |
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TheGoldenGreek33 |
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A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
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Arquimedez Bozo |
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asf, a couple things:
1) I think you're past this part, but I'll add it anyway - not signing a guy from the first three rounds is losing a year of development on a pick that you're going to get comparable value for the next year. It's not like trading a third round pick this year for a second round pick next year. 2) Let's be honest, do you REALLY need compensation for an 18th round pick? Do you think the Sox are kicking themselves for using their 20th round pick on Alex Meyer, and wish that they'd picked someone else there instead? Of course not. There's a reason that teams wait to pick those guys until the lower rounds - it's either that, or a dime-a-dozen player like Jon Hee (who was chosen one round after Meyer). By choosing a player in the first five or so rounds and not signing him, you're losing out on a pick that you probably DO wish you had taken another talented player at. By the 15th round or so, the decision becomes whether to take a signability guy or an organizational guy. This is why the first three rounds are the only ones that clubs get compensation for - you don't need to get the later picks back.
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soxprospects |
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I'll play devil's advocate and support ASF's point for a minute, even though I don't agree with it. I think the only way it could possibly work
is if you have a backup plan - you draft a bordeline tough sign in the second round instead of the fifth round - let's say a Ryan Westmoreland type,
passing on drafting your safer bets like Gibson/Price/Fife types until the 3rd/4th/5th, to the extent possible. Meanwhile you draft a bunch of
Meyer/Moore/Oropesa type of players in the later rounds. If you can't get the RWML type of player locked up, you throw that money at one of the
Meyer/Moore/Oropesa types. Then you're not really losing a year of development, you just have Meyer (or some other guy who was remotely signable) instead
of Westmoreland, AND you have an extra second round pick in the following draft.
Note that I understand the multitude of risks involved with this plan - that's why I don't like it. I'm just not sure I buy that you necessarily have to lose a year of development, you can just sign somebody else. ADD: Jon Hee will make AB eat his words. Mark it dude.
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soxprospects |
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Red Sox Draft Preview Part 5 - Signability Players
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soxprospects |
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Red Sox Draft Preview Part 5 - Mock Draft, courtesy of amfox1
http://news.soxprospects.com/2009/06/red-sox-draft-preview-mock-draft.html |
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amfox1 |
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While the link has the mock draft itself, the following contains some of my notes as to where the
interesting spots lie.
7. Atlanta - Mike Minor, LHP, Vanderbilt (starting to look like a bit of
a wild card if the two prep pitchers are off the board, Wheeler is a lock if he makes it here, White is a possibility here also)
9. Detroit - Jacob Turner, RHP, Westminster Christian Academy (MO)
(Turner is the likely pick if he makes it here)
13. Oakland - Tim Wheeler, OF, Sacramento State (local kid, makes some
sense, would not be surprised to see a college P picked here)
18. Florida - Drew Storen, RHP, Stanford (I originally had Arnett in this spot
before moving him up.)
22. Minnesota - Matt Hobgood, RHP, Norco HS (CA) (they are purportedly
interested in a HS OF but they have selected two in a row in the 1st round, Hobgood is a pitcher who the Red Sox purportedly like a lot)
28. Boston - Max Stassi, C, Yuba City HS (CA)(going with the consensus,
I will not be surprised if they take Williams or Fuentes if they slip here or one of the other signability guys)
Possible supp. round picks: Billy Bullock, RHP, Florida (best pure C reliever in the draft) James Paxton, LHP, Kentucky Andy Oliver, LHP, Oklahoma State Brad Boxberger, RHP, USC Kyle Heckathorn, RHP, Kennesaw State Garrett Richards, RHP, Oklahoma Sam Dyson, RHP, South Carolina Garrett Gould, RHP, Maize HS (KS) Tyler Skaggs, LHP, Santa Monica HS (CA) Brody Colvin, RHP, St. Thomas More HS (LA) Zack Von Rosenberg, RHP, Zachary HS (LA) Madison Younginer, RHP, Mauldin HS (SC) Keyvius Sampson, RHP, Forest HS (FL) Rich Poythress, 1B, Georgia Matt Davidson, 3B, Yucaipa HS (CA) Mychal Givens, SS/RHP, Plant HS (FL) (profiles more as SS) Jeff Malm, 1B, Bishop Gorman HS (NV) David Renfroe, SS/P, South Panola HS (MS) Slade Heathcott, CF, Texarkana HS (TX) Wil Myers, C, Wesleyan Christian Academy (NC) Tommy Joseph, C, Horizon HS (AZ)
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Pantera |
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MLBDreams wrote: Its hard to understand that Strasburg is a different type of animal. Quite different from any hyped college pitching prospect of yesteryear. Keith Law tries to put in perspective why, comparing him to Ben McDonald, Kris Benson, or even Mark Prior is silly never mind Craig Hansen. http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2009/insider/news/story?id=4240670 |
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