New Interest in Coco?

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Veteran Member Posts: 837 04/23/08 11:02 AM Veteran Member	Tags : None AMarsh, when you closed the last Coco trade thread you said to open up a new one if anything credible comes up. These threads have a bad history around here, but... This was in today's Gammons blog: With the Orioles strong, hustling start, there is an increased belief that Peter Angelos won't allow Brian Roberts to be traded, hence the O's (I think he means Cubs) renewed discussions with the Red Sox concerning Coco Crisp. Boston is still interested in Cubs right-handed pitcher Sean Gallagher and a Class A prospect in return for Crisp. The Sox are now 9-1 with Ellsbury leading off. Something has to break soon. I thought the Apockolips was a prehistoric bird that feasted on early mammals and lived in the caves now frequented by Islamic terrorists. - ASF
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OCD SS		#1	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 414 04/23/08 12:49 PM Veteran Member	Until Coco actually manages to play I don't think we can expect a trade. I really don't see why the Cubs would trade for Coco unless they're convinced that Pie has cooties or something. It really doesn't make a lot of sense... *"I'd like to fck Sandra Bullock"** - Pedro, explaining his secret ambition to Sports Illustrated for Kids.
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Veteran Member Posts: 758 04/23/08 2:50 PM Veteran Member	OCD SS wrote: Until Coco actually manages to play I don't think we can expect a trade. I really don't see why the Cubs would trade for Coco unless they're convinced that Pie has cooties or something. It really doesn't make a lot of sense... They don't necessarily intend to play Coco in center. I think it's fair to say: Coco > Reed Johnson. "Things happen in Boston." -Joe Morgan
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klostrophobic		#3	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 2915 04/23/08 3:38 PM Veteran Member	Coco anywhere but in CF is an immense waste of talent, so you're probably right. The Cubs are fantastic at wasting talent. Postponed: Wind
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jamalisamra20		#4	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 521 04/23/08 3:39 PM	They don't necessarily intend to play Coco in center. I think it's fair to say: Coco > Reed Johnson. Most of Coco's value comes from his ability to play centerfield at a GG level, so I doubt the Cubs would trade for him (and subsequently give up talent) and not use him at the position they would get the most value out of.
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soxcentral		#5	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 837 04/23/08 4:41 PM Veteran Member	They could use him as a part-time CF to take pressure off Pie, with Crisp going to LF only when Pie is in the lineup. Or Pie could be moved to LF and split time with Johnson, with Crisp the everyday CF. (Edit - comma obsession) I thought the Apockolips was a prehistoric bird that feasted on early mammals and lived in the caves now frequented by Islamic terrorists. - ASF
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Veteran Member Posts: 732 04/23/08 4:46 PM	OCD SS wrote: Until Coco actually manages to play I don't think we can expect a trade. I really don't see why the Cubs would trade for Coco unless they're convinced that Pie has cooties or something. It really doesn't make a lot of sense... Coco only has 12 less ABs than Jacoby, and he has played very well. Meanwhile Pie is doing terrible, and they never were comfortable in giving him the job in the first place, evidenced by how long it took for him to get the job. Personally I think they should play Matt Murton, but they obviously don't like him either.
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Veteran Member Posts: 625 04/23/08 4:51 PM Veteran Member	The Cubs are also playing .700 ball right now so I can't see where they would be looking to make a switch. If anything this gives them a greater chance to get a look at Pie. This would be akin to the Sox looking to trade for a veteran 2B after Pedroia started out horribly last April. It didn't make sense then and it wouldn't make sense now. If the Cubs fall back to Earth and or Pie does nothing between now and June then maybe they revisit Coco.
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TomRicardo		#8	[url]	[-]
Rookie Posts: 23 04/23/08 5:19 PM	They don't necessarily intend to play Coco in center. I think it's fair to say: Coco > Reed Johnson. Really because I rather have Reed Johnson as the Red Sox 4th OF than Coco Crisp. _________________________________________________________________ "When you ban someone, you click on the little box next to the person's name, then scroll down to the bottom and select the action you want done (in this case, banning). I was wondering if it would be possible to click on everyone's names, including myself, and then ban us all." - LTF "Oh, and if yecul ever shows up here, "Fingers Underaged Girls" will be his tagline." - DLew
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cwaaa		#9	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 371 04/23/08 5:36 PM	Welcome to Soxprospects TomRicardo. Man, the Cubs really hate Matt Murton. I don't get it at all. Free Chris Carter...
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TheGoldenGreek33		#10	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 1738 04/23/08 7:18 PM Veteran Member	TomRicardo wrote: Really because I rather have Reed Johnson as the Red Sox 4th OF than Coco Crisp. Really? Because they both have the exact same slugging % and Coco plays gold glove defense. Coco, please.
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Rookie Posts: 97 04/23/08 8:34 PM	I wish we could get Marmol out of the deal but that won't happen. To be frank you don't see many position players, even bench ones, being moved so early in the season. If Crisp goes it is at least 2 to 3 months away.
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TomRicardo		#12	[url]	[-]
Rookie Posts: 23 04/24/08 8:33 AM	Really? Because they both have the exact same slugging % and Coco plays gold glove defense. Coco, please. Reed Johnson is a better RHH and can play RF which only JD Drew really has the arm to do in Boston. _________________________________________________________________ "When you ban someone, you click on the little box next to the person's name, then scroll down to the bottom and select the action you want done (in this case, banning). I was wondering if it would be possible to click on everyone's names, including myself, and then ban us all." - LTF "Oh, and if yecul ever shows up here, "Fingers Underaged Girls" will be his tagline." - DLew
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soxcentral		#13	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 837 04/26/08 6:26 PM Veteran Member	Billy Beane called Theo Epstein again Friday, trying to talk him into dealing Coco Crisp. http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=gammons_peter I thought the Apockolips was a prehistoric bird that feasted on early mammals and lived in the caves now frequented by Islamic terrorists. - ASF
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bigrock20		#14	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 102 04/26/08 6:49 PM	can someone give an idea of what gammons said about it for us non espn insiders
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FenwayTheHardWay		#15	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 619 04/26/08 7:06 PM Veteran Member	bigrock20 wrote: can someone give an idea of what gammons said about it for us non espn insiders The fact that you can't read Peter Gammons anymore without paying for their dumbass site... man... I guess I could hate ESPN more but it'd be hard. As for Coco, at this point I don't think we're going to trade him unless something absolutely ridiculous comes along... it's pretty clear to me that they're happy to use him as a 4th outfielder, regardless of his feelings on the matter. Considering the fragility of our starting outfield it's probably not a bad idea to do so. "And, you know, has it ever occurred to you, that, instead of, uh... this could be a lot more, uh, complex, I mean, it's not just, it might not be just such a simple... uh, you know?"
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buffs44444		#16	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 338 04/26/08 7:25 PM	soxcentral wrote: Billy Beane called Theo Epstein again Friday, trying to talk him into dealing Coco Crisp. http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=gammons_peter Wait him out Theo. If Beane wants Crisp, and it seems he does, make him come with a damn good offer. Crisp's play is definitely raising his value.....
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Duffman545		#17	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 966 04/26/08 8:14 PM	bigrock20 wrote: can someone give an idea of what gammons said about it for us non espn insiders That's really all that Gammons said.
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FenwayTheHardWay		#18	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 619 04/26/08 8:30 PM Veteran Member	You sure he didn't mention Coco being of the the truly great human beings in the game? "And, you know, has it ever occurred to you, that, instead of, uh... this could be a lot more, uh, complex, I mean, it's not just, it might not be just such a simple... uh, you know?"
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tupelo207		#19	[url]	[-]
Rookie Posts: 8 04/26/08 8:49 PM	That is actually all he said. As much as like to see Ellsbury in the line up every day, the more line drives I see off of Coco's bat the better this team can be come July on. IF he can stay healthy and continue to have an OPS near 800, he will bring something of value sooner or later.
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GK2186		#20	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 121 04/26/08 10:01 PM	Gammons kind of lost what ever credibility he had left when he proclaimed JD Drew the next Dewey Evans
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