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norbit14 |
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Tito is not a "numbers guy." "Jason has a lot of catching left" Yeah back-up catching and even then he might be the worst back-up in the
league.
Boston doesn't deserve me.
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gregblossersbelly |
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Tek and Manny are making the off-season decisions easy for Theo. We have let Pedro Martinez and Johnny Damon walk after good years. No way does either come back for anywhere near the money they are making now. And, since Boras is their agent. I don't see them accepting a pay cut to stay. That will also allow us to eat all of Lugo's salary. Which is what we're going to have to do to get him off of this team. Just release him. Hansen pitches scared. Please report to McCoy stadium. Because, that's where you belong. Delcarmen. You are now our mop-up guy. Work on stretching that arm out. Cause you aren't coming in a game any more when we have the lead. Masterson to pen. Bucholz starting SAT. |
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Rock4751 |
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I think Tek has a lot of catching left, Has been and will continue to be a decent hitter out of the catching spot
BUT.. I also think he needs a lot of rest (right now) He has been sick quite a bit lately, and couple of days off I think would serve him well. |
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norbit14 |
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Tek hasn't been a decent hitter the past month or so and if the first week of July is any indication he will have two bad months in a row. All I have to
say is 9/74 with two extra base-hits.
Boston doesn't deserve me.
Last Edited By: norbit14 07/02/08 11:44 PM.
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scotian1 |
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Archie Graham wrote: I wonder if they will feel the same way when his average sinks below the Mendoza line, its getting pretty close! |
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bosox1025 |
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I think Tek has a lot of catching left, Has been and will continue to be a decent hitter out of the catching spot74 (Tek's number of AB's in June) .176 (Tek's slugging percentage in June) .381 (Tek's OPS in June) He's already started July off 0-6 with 5 strikeouts. There is no way he should be wearing a Red Sox uniform next year, and by no means signing a multi-year deal. |
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nationinthesouth |
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bosox1025 wrote: Even with all that I would be surprised if he didn't come back. What we can't do is carry two catchers that can't hit. So either that means we can't bring back Wake or Tek needs to learn to catch the knuckleball. |
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ArodSucksAtLife |
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bosox1025 wrote:So in May when he had 91 plate appearances, a .913 OPS, a babip of .370 was he deserving of the uniform? Now June, 83 plate appearances, .380 OPS, a babip of .154 he can piss off. People can have bad stretches. Pedroia sucked major for about 100 PA last year, ended up with a 112 OPS+ a Roy award, and a title. Varitek is not a p.o.s over 162 games he'll prove it. We are a better baseball team than Tampa, and over 162 games we'll prove it.
I'd love to lick the tears off of Joba's face... I'm sure they taste like sweet golden
candy...-CheapSeats61
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ancientsoxfogey |
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Ah, another cheery day at the game thread. Let me occupy my, really, usual middle ground between the tenor of the majority of the thread and the stolid
optimism of Arod's final post. Lugo is what he is. We succeeded with him last season because of who was around him. MDC was in the set-up role because of a
dominant month. Hansen had pitched reasonably well, though not as dominantly as MDC, over much of the same period. It seems fairly clear that they may both be
running out of gas at this point, because they are being asked to do things that they haven't done before, either recently or at all, at the major league
level. Lowell and Varitek pulled the ill-fated miss and trot because Youk just missed the big momentum-turner, Francona decided to go with his captain and with
him up and Lugo and a currently cold Ellsbury on deck Francona probably felt that rolling the dice was his last shot to salvage the game. Maybe Francona's
thinking was that he would PH Casey for Lugo -- I don't know. With a bench of Casey, Cora, and Cash he didn't have many options. As for the rest of the
season?? The Sox can still win the Division of course, but it's going to be a struggle. As I've said before, I think it will be a struggle because last
season took a toll on some of our aging core players, and maybe a few others, that is showing itself the following year. After 2004 I suspected that we'd
seen the last of the best of Schilling and Foulke. After 2007 I wonder if we've seen the last of the best of Varitek, MannyR, and maybe Papi. Injury and
gradual deterioration to core players is a tough hurdle to overcome, but this team has a lot of character and can do it. For me, a key now is getting enough
out of the rotation to give the pen relatively consistent rest, and thus its best chance to succeed. Dice-K, this means you. As others have suggested, Theo is
going to earn his money this coming offseason. Some potentially momentous decisions to be made, and he might end up "blowing it up" relatively
speaking.
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DCRi |
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The Sox supposedly are interested in Fuentes from Colorado. He probably would be a good pickup. Would be nice to get Holliday thrown in.
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jsinger121 |
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DCRi wrote: Maybe if they were giving Matt Holliday away for free. Have you seen his numbers away from Denver? I wouldn't give up anything of siginificant value for Holliday with his home/road splits. |
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FenwayTheHardWay |
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ancientsoxfogey wrote:
People I'd much rather see at the plate right now instead of The Captain: Lugo (A currently cold) Ellsbury Casey Cora And Cash couldn't be worse than Varitek. You or I couldn't be worse than Varitek. He'd got absolutely no chance up there right now.
"And, you know, has it ever occurred to you, that, instead of, uh... this could be a lot more, uh, complex, I mean, it's not just, it might not be
just such a simple... uh, you know?"
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DCRi |
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Holliday at home: OBP: .442, SLG: .604, BA: .361. Away: .401/.472/.309.
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all4it232 |
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What was the most frustrating part of this was the bandwagon fans of Tampa Bay. For the last 10 years the place has been solely Sox fans who got a good deal
flying southwest. They also had an empty stadium pretty much every game except for those Sox fans. All the sudden the place is packed and rocking like Fenway
for the bleeping RAYS. Even with a 4-1 deficit and Varitek up in the top of the 7th the place was on their feet and booming and then went crazy when he struck
out. I mean I respect the Rays and think what they have done to turn this team around is great. But I hate their fans even more than Yankee fans...this is
absurd...
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all4it232 |
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O and regards to Fuentes and Holliday. Give them Hansen, Moss, Carter. Sounds good to me
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nationinthesouth |
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all4it232 wrote: At least with a full stadium we don't have to hear that annoying heckler who used to choose one visiting player per game and go through some incoherent rant when he came up to the plate. |
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ChuckZ |
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I don't understand why people everywhere get upset when people actually start going to games when a team starts winning. Seriously, what's with all
the elitism regarding who can go to what game and who can support what team? How can you get mad at TB fans for supporting their team? You can't claim
they're bandwagon fans because they didn't go to games in the seven years where their team averaged 63 wins. There was no history there, so it was
never like, "Let's support them because we have a lot riding on this." There previously was no reason to go to the game. Now there is.
It's that simple.
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Haddock Field |
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ChuckZ wrote:How about those bandwagon Red Sox fans? Average attendance, 1959-1966: 873,366 Average attendance, 1967-1975: 1,659,470 |
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all4it232 |
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those fans suck too.
I am happy that the Rays are getting support because I like how they are trying to take this team in a winning direction, which was started by the front office making some drastic changes and significant attempts to establish a fan base. I just feel like a lot of the same fans who cheered for the Sox the last 10 years are now cheering for the Rays and then they multiplied themselves by like 10 simply because a team they know nothing about it is all the sudden "winning". It's very fairweather-ish to me and I don't respect it a whole hell of a lot. |
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Haddock Field |
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Give me a break. The Rays are an expansion team. When they moved in 10 years ago, people who grew up in the area were already fans of the Braves or other teams
and all the transplants already had their favorite teams. Why would they go out and watch a terrible product, except when a team they liked was in town?
Winning puts butts in the seats, period. No team is an exception. The Red Sox were bordering on irrelevant before 1967, much like the Devil Rays were, and the Sox didn't have the expansion excuse. But if you give people a reason to come out, they will. Maybe 2008 will spawn generations of Rays fans. |
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