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TheGoldenGreek33

6/17 ML Gamethread: Lowell season opener, Zink in Pawtucket

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06/17/08 3:40 AM

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AAA- Pawtucket (Charlie Zink 7-2 2.10) @ Lehigh Valley [PHI] (J.A. Happ 4-5 3.95) 7:05 pm
AA- Portland (Matt Goodson 3-4 5.33) vs. New Britain [MIN] (Ryan Mullins 6-4 3.23) 7:00 pm
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A - Greenville - Off day (All Star Game)
SS- Lowell (Brock Huntzinger 0-0 0.00) vs. Tri-City (HOU) (Robert Bono 0-0 0.00) 7:05 pm
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My apologies for yesterday's mix-up. The world resumes spinning in the correct direction.

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06/17/08 5:14 AM

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Day off in the title

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06/17/08 7:44 AM

Team	Box	Log
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Lowell	Box	Log
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06/17/08 10:46 AM

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Zink gets a nice write-up in the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/17/sports/baseball/17pitcher.html

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06/17/08 11:10 AM

Robert Bono goes for Tri-City tonight.

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06/17/08 2:46 PM

Good stuff, Blumbergh. However, wtf was the writer thinking when he wrote, "During that 2003 season, he allowed 144 hits in 175 1/3 innings for Class A Sarasota and Class AA Portland, earning a spot on Baseball America's list of top-50 prospects." Huh? Check the all-time top 100 prospect list; he was never on it, nor should he have been.

On a more positive note, I really hope Zink get a legit opportunity to be a full-time starter somewhere in the Bigs within the next few years.

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06/17/08 2:52 PM

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It was Baseball Prospectus, not BA. He was indeed No. 50.

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06/17/08 3:00 PM

Alright. The writer said Baseball America, so that was a mistake on his part. #50, really? Putting up fairly decent numbers in high-A ball and AA at 24 yo equates to being a top 50 prospect? Okay.

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I think that at the time it was understood that BP always put a "pet prospect" in the final spot of their top 50 list so Zink's placement there did not mean they actually thought he was the 50th best prospect in baseball.

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06/17/08 4:00 PM

Oh, okay. That makes sense, I guess.

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06/17/08 4:27 PM

Also remember that KG wasn't working for BP at the time so the minor league rankings was a little different. Just as a reference point, here is what the 2005 book had for a top 10 ranking:
Andy Marte
Delmon Young
Felix Hernandez
Dallas McPherson
Casey Kotchman
Ian Stewart
Joel Guzman
Prince Fielder
Daric Barton
Jeremy Reed- yes, that Jeremy Reed

Also, Eric Ducan is ranked #13 while Kazmir was 14 and Hanley #24. I'm sorry I don't have the BA 2005 book, I can't seem to find it anywhere. mahalo
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Chach Collins wrote:
Jeremy Reed- yes, that Jeremy Reed

To think all it would have took to nab that talent was Papelbon straight up. You fail Theo.

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06/17/08 5:28 PM

The best part was I gues in the 2004 book, they ranked him as the #2 prospect in all of baseball. Wowza, they miffed on that one. I'm worried to go looking back at some of the threads on Reed because I was a big fan and willing to give up a lot for him. Maybe not Paps but I think I said Lester would be a good fit for Seattle. And this is why I don't run a baseball team.

The best part about reading these old books is running across old names from our prospect past, namely Stefan Bailie and Kenny Perez. mahalo
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This should be an object lesson for those of you who get wet at the thought of highly regarded prospects. Even most of the really good ones fail to live up to expectations, so any dreamcasting about which players may be in Boston a year or four from now is a waste of your key strokes. Graduating Lester, Paps, Ellsbury, Hansen, Pedroia and MDC (with Masterson, Bowden and Lowrie potentially on the way) in the space of 3-4 years is most definitely the exception and not the rule.

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3IP, 3H, 6ER, 3/1 K/BB, 1HRA, 3HB, 4WP, 5SBA, 1 groin
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06/17/08 6:17 PM

Here's the BA top 10 prospects from 2005:
1. Joe Mauer, c, Twins
2. Felix Hernandez, rhp, Mariners
3. Delmon Young, of, Devil Rays
4. Ian Stewart, 3b, Rockies
5. Joel Guzman, ss, Dodgers
6. Casey Kotchman, 1b, Angels
7. Scott Kazmir, lhp, Devil Rays
8. Rickie Weeks, 2b, Brewers
9. Andy Marte, 3b, Braves
10. Darrell Rasner, rhp, Yankees

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fcastig0220 wrote:
Here's the BA top 10 prospects from 2005:
1. Joe Mauer, c, Twins
2. Felix Hernandez, rhp, Mariners
3. Delmon Young, of, Devil Rays
4. Ian Stewart, 3b, Rockies
5. Joel Guzman, ss, Dodgers
6. Casey Kotchman, 1b, Angels
7. Scott Kazmir, lhp, Devil Rays
8. Rickie Weeks, 2b, Brewers
9. Andy Marte, 3b, Braves
10. Darrell Rasner, rhp, Yankees

The point being......what?

Also, is that right about Rasner? I don't recall him being a top 10 prospect on any list other than the Columbus Clippers.

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Final line for Bard:

3IP, 3H, 6ER, 3/1 K/BB, 1HRA, 3HB, 4WP, 5SBA, 1 groin
- amfox1

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06/17/08 6:42 PM

Ah, the Jeremy Reed kerfuffle. Remember it well. Wish I could remember the chump Mariners reliever that Cameron thought was a good comp for Papelbon. Good times.

Andy Marte is another great name to throw around concerning the perils of overestimating prospects' chances. Coco Crisp hasn't been what I hoped when he came over, but that's clearly a trade you'd do again if you're the Red Sox.

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06/17/08 6:44 PM

Quinty, why don't you do me a favor and take 10 seconds out of your day to read post #11. Chach couldn't find a copy of BA's 2005 list, so I posted one here.

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06/17/08 7:10 PM

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Will Middlebrooks will play 3rd and Dent SS.

Boston doesn't deserve me.

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06/17/08 7:13 PM

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CFO playing 1B. Verrry interresting.

Full lineup

Dent, SS
Bermudez, CF
CFO, 1B
Blocker, DH
Dening, RF
Middlebrooks, 3B
Keowen, LF
Gil, C
Hee, 2B

(bench: Cooney, Burgos, Gentile, Brooks, Sumoza)

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