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5/22 ML Gameday Thread: 2 early games; Prince Felix on the hill

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duveen.alternatehistor...		#21	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 168 05/22/08 11:00 PM	JimRiceRocks wrote: A few more solid starts and it might be time to bump Felix up to Lancaster, I mean Portland That's the question (not Lancaster or Portland, but whether he's bumpworthy at all) -- do you guys have a first hand report on his stuff this year yet? He's still young for his level but low-A doesn't require overpowering stuff to put up a nice numbers, esp if you're a lefty with good command, which Doubront appears to be at this point. I wouldn't expect he'll be moved up till the end of the season unless he absolutely dominates, but whether he's truly legit as a prospect or not seems to be an unanswered question at this point.
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Forever Red 9		#22	[url]	[-]
Moderator Veteran Member Posts: 2548 05/22/08 11:48 PM Moderator	Who of our 2006 first round picks is going to end up with more Ks this year - Bard (49 so far) or Place (50)?
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norbit14		#23	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 2030 05/22/08 11:57 PM Veteran Member	My money is on Place, he ks more than Jason "BB" Neighborgall issues walks per plate appearance. Boston doesn't deserve me.
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bjb406		#24	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 720 05/23/08 12:02 AM	ouch, that hurts
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klostrophobic		#25	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 2843 05/23/08 12:03 AM Veteran Member	Place no doubt. Postponed: Wind
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Oz43		#26	[url]	[-]
Rookie Posts: 7 05/23/08 12:05 AM	I don't know what his defense is like, but based on his hitting it seems like Bailey has earned Moss's spot as the 5th outfielder in the system. He looks like he could be a pretty nice platoon partner for Drew as well. So much for the pleasant surprise that was 2008 Kottaras -- a nice walk rate is the only thing keeping his May OPS over .600.
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WillyCoPapi3		#27	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 2976 05/23/08 12:34 AM Veteran Member	Oz43 wrote: I don't know what his defense is like, but based on his hitting it seems like Bailey has earned Moss's spot as the 5th outfielder in the system. He looks like he could be a pretty nice platoon partner for Drew as well. Um, no. While it isn't ideal to have Moss (another lefty) as the 5th OFer, he's more suited to handle the role if needed. He has way more roster flexibility with his ability to play both corner OF positions (and a little CF) and 1B, and he's already proven himself capable of at least handling major league pitching. Bailey is a guy who has certainly paid his dues and deserves a look at the major league level. I think he'll get his shot somewhere (Tito said a year or two back that he thinks Bailey can hit at the MLB level), but I don't see him ever having a role with the Red Sox when taking into account the other options and his limited defensive ability (he's really only a capable 1B from what I understand). But this is pretty much a moot point anyway barring an injury. The Red Sox already have a terrific 4th OFer in Coco and quality infield bench options in Cora (SS, 2B, 3B) and Casey (1B). However, if there is a need then for another position player then I expect the call to go to Moss (or Van Every) before Bailey (<-I do hope he gets called up at some point if he continues to smoke the ball). Lugo is a walking poster child for late term abortions. I know he's in the 95th trimester or whatever but he should be the loophole to the law. mahalo ~Chach~
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Vendrell		#28	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 692 05/23/08 2:09 AM	Trask77 wrote: Vendrell wrote: Thats now 43Ks in 28 innings for lentz, for a 13.8 K/9. His ERA isnt the best, but its lancaster - hes fooling alot of hitters. Definately a bullpen arm to watch this season and next, especially if he gets to portland. That is a fantastic K rate, but he's two months shy of turning 24 and playing in High A ball so he should be expected to dominate in order to be considered more than just filler. What really scares me off from getting excited about Lentz is his BB rate -- nearly 8 BB/9 last year in Greenville, and 6.1 BB/9 this year in Lancaster. In all fairness he also had 9.6 K/9 last year and nearly 14 K/9 this year. But he's got to learn better control of the strikezone or he'll wash out quickly in AA and beyond. I personally don't factor in age that much for later-round relievers. I mean, sure, he should be doing well at hi-A, but i dont see it affecting his prospect status, since hes not ever going to be anything more than maybe a decent pen arm in the majors. If he reaches the majors at 26 or 27, thats a success. Everythng else is a bit sub-par, but Lentz actually has pretty good stuff, so hes definately overmatching a large number of Hi-A hitters, and thats good to see. I wouldnt put him in the top 20 at all, and defiantely am not overhyping, but the K rate is good to see. As an aside, anyone know where i can find up-to-date BABIP ratings? all the main sites id think to check (BA, milb.com, etc) dont have it, and minor league splits.com only updates year-end.
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klostrophobic		#29	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 2843 05/23/08 2:33 AM Veteran Member	firstinning.com Postponed: Wind
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Arquimedez Bozo		#30	[url]	[-]
Moderator Veteran Member Posts: 4660 05/23/08 1:14 PM Moderator	I saw both of Bailey's home runs on the news last night. Both were absolutely smoked to left - one got to the parking lot, and the other made people on the walkway scatter for their lives. It's getting to the point where the Sox can't ignore what he's doing. He has put up pretty good numbers in AAA for three seasons now. Since he's 29, he actually wouldn't be a bad RHH off the bench - it's not like you're stunting his development by not playing him. However, there just isn't room - he's not going to displace Cora, Casey, or Crisp anytime soon, as WCP mentions. "they should go to soxprospect so that BOZO THE CLOWN and the rest of THE WANTS TO BE will give you some information" - A SP.com Legend "A doubleheader is better than tipping the other team off the side of a cliff." - Cin1010
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BLumbergh		#31	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 317 05/23/08 1:31 PM Veteran Member	If Bailey can keep this up, I'd rather have him up than Moss. Moss may have an advantage in position flexibility, but given the current construction of the roster, the Sox have pretty good flexibility already: the corner infield spots are in good shape due to Casey's presence and Youk's defensive flexibility, and the outfield has two good centerfielders, so the fact that Moss could play center in a pinch and Bailey couldn't isn't terribly significant. Having some power off the bench would be nice, especially if the Sox are going to keep using Cora as a defensive replacement for Lugo. Why not give the occasional late game Lugo at bat to Bailey and then let Cora replace him in the field?
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Forever Red 9		#32	[url]	[-]
Moderator Veteran Member Posts: 2548 05/23/08 6:48 PM Moderator	As an aside, anyone know where i can find up-to-date BABIP ratings? all the main sites id think to check (BA, milb.com, etc) dont have it, and minor league splits.com only updates year-end. Shameless Plug... http://www.soxprospects.com/stats/hitting.php?page=1&sortby=BABIP&team=0&year=2008&type=3&min=0
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5/22 ML Gameday Thread: 2 early games; Prince Felix on the hill