The cut watch list is back for 2008. Let me preface this by stating that I wish no ill will to any of the players, as its not pleasant when anybody gets
cut. My hope is that all of these players can turn it around and return to prospect status, and that space stays open for them in the org. Unfortunately, its
a fact of the business that some players are going to get released, especially with several players scheduled to come off the DL soon. Below is a list of
players that may be on the fringe when players start coming off the DL - some of these players might be willing to go to XST rather than getting released.
Javier Lopez 0-0, 4.50 ERA, 2/3 K/BB (out of options, probably the next out when/if the Sox add another pitcher)
Edgar Martinez 0-0, 7.94, 0/6 (unlikely to get cut anytime soon, but if any PawSox pitcher has to go when both Colon & Hansdack get
activated, Smith would probably be returned to Portland, and then who would be the next to go? They'd probably send EMart to XST to work on his secondary
stuff)
Jay Johnson .217/.286/.261 (either he or Danielson are candidates to go when Corsaletti is activated)
Portland Pitchers? (Smith may be returned soon, and at some point Portland will need to carry more than 2 hitters on the bench (they usually
carry 4 bench players) - what pitcher(s) would go? There are no real obvious candidates, probably a phantom DL or undeservedly sending some pitchers down to
Lancaster/XST)
James Russ 0-1, 6.75 5/5
Mickey Hall .200/.304/.400 (who else would go when Reddick gets called up? Maybe Sheely or Nava)
Luis Segovia .231/.231/.385 (if some Greenville IF gets called up to A+ when Tejeda returns, Segovia could go back to XST)
Will Vazquez .167/.167/.333 (Somebody else has to go when Tejeda/Kalish return. Does Greenville really need 3 catchers?)
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Posts: 365 04/16/08 11:38 AM |
excellent work sausage king. Look for lopez to be traded to some idiot team that thinks he's a loogy in a month when Hansen is ready for his triumphant
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regarding emart: can he be sent to xst w/o first going on the dl. besides I'd almost be in favor of completely releasing snyder who has no benefit to the big league club as opposed to the miniscule chance that edgar has to get it together and be a decent reliever. I just didn't feel like getting seven different kinds of scabies that night. ~ Chach |
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Welcome back from the offseason Abe.
It looks like no countermove is necessary for Corsaletti's return, as Natale got the call up to Pawtucket when Thurston got called up to Boston and Daeges is on the DL. As for Big Edgar, I wouldn't be so sure he won't get released. In each time I've seen him in Pawtucket, he as failed to impress me one bit. He's now in his second season of suckitude in AAA. Given that he was always a project and the timeline on that project has got to come to an end one way or another soon, he might be the first one out the door. The fact that Abe Alvarez is starting to show some life out of the bullpen doesn't help Edgar either, as he was another guy living on the edge. I agree that Mickey Hall looks like the casualty when Reddick gets the call. He has gotten by far the least amount of PT on the roster. Sheely literally got ALL of the at-bats when Place went down. The fact that Hall didn't even get a look for one of those days shows me that the organization sees him as roster filler at this point. As for Greenville, Reddick's promotion will open a spot that I'd hope will be filled by either Tejeda or Kalish. When the second one of those two is promoted, I agree that Vazquez seems like the casualty. Finally, in Portland, my guess is the Phantom DL is utilized. For all we know, that's already the case with Hottovy and Dobies.
"they should go to soxprospect so that BOZO THE
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can someone do a post to shown what players are going to be moving up in the ranks
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4/26 Update
Javier Lopez 1-0, 4.50 ERA, 27/6 K/BB Bryan Corey 0-0, 10.50, 4/3 Abe Alvarez 1-1, 7.59, 8/7 Mickey Hall (no stats at AA) Portland bullpen (probabbly will continue revolving paper moves - 8 man bullpen, none deserving to be cut or demoted) James Russ 0-2, 5.65, 13/10 Matt Sheely .165/.246/.164 Luis Segovia .227/.217/.318 Will Vazquez .214/.214/.357 XST Bound? Jose Alvarez 0-3, 10.20, 18/6, 1.87 WHIP Terumasa Matsuo 0-0, 8.76, 11/9 |
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If Boston decides that Mickey Hall isn't going to make it as an OF, do you think that they will try him out as a LHP? He did pitch in HS and showed a mid
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From going to a couple of games this last homestand @ McCoy I have to think Abe's days are getting numbered.
ChrisSmith had a nice outing, then Hansen came in and threw all fastballs for 5 outs. Then in comes Abe. Topping out at a whopping 68 mph in his warm up throws, Josh Barfield (that power hitter that he is) keeps his hands back with a softball hitters arc and deposits Abe's first pitch over the bullpen. RJ had a guy up before it landed. It's been a nice run for Abe. He's gotten alot out of very little. Also, Guapo still has REALLY bad outings with very few nice outings between. He may be next to go if the Portland guys start to be ready to come up. |
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Welcome to the Board twild.
Agreed that Abe's days are numbered, but I sincerely doubt he was topping out at 68 during warmups. You can't always trust stadium guns, even though McCoy's is definitely one of the more reliable ones generally. Also don't know how I feel about this new trend calling Edgar Martinez, El Guapo. Noticed that the PawSox website referred to him as such. Until he even shows he can get AAA hitters out on a moderately consistent basis, he gets no nickname. Rich Garces may not have been a Hall of Famer, but at least he was a useful Major League setup man...
"they should go to soxprospect so that BOZO THE
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It MUST have been more than 68 - heck i can throw 75, and i havent played baseball in 5 years.
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You had to see it to believe it.
I know the guns aren't calliprated. But that gun usually ups the MPH. Hansen wasn't really hitting 96+ the whole outing. Abe's trying this herky, jerky motion to hide the ball more. It is unsuccessful to say the least. Non Guapo looks worse than Colon in a uni and that wouldn't matter if he at least threw with some movement. The only guys I haven't seen throw yet early on is Switzer & Hull. On the hitting side, they look really good. The whole bunch are really putting together good at bats. Van Every and Carter have really looked good. Carter moreso, Van Every has some trouble with some LH pitching. Even Kottaras has looked good offensively. |
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5/5 Update
Javier Lopez 1-0, 3.75 ERA, 7/6 K/BB Mike Timlin 2-2, 12.79, 2/3 (Fake DL Watch List) Abe Alvarez 2-1, 5.65, 8/10 Chad Spann .180/.215/.213 Lincoln Holdzkom 3-0, 6.35, 4/14 (Outright assignment/DFA watch list if space needed on 40 man) Mickey Hall .167/.167/.500 Portland bullpen (probabbly will continue revolving paper moves - 8 man bullpen, none deserving to be cut or demoted) James Russ 0-3, 5.55, 14/13 Matt Sheely .182/.260/.182 Luis Segovia .227/.217/.318 XST Bound? Terumasa Matsuo 0-0, 6.45, 16/9 Ryne Lawson 2-1, 6.48, 14/14 |
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5/13 Update
Mike Timlin 2-2, 9.00, 2/3 (Fake DL?) Chad Spann .194/.236/.224 Lincoln Holdzkom 3-0, 5.65, 5/16 Mickey Hall .189/.231/.486 (safe while Bell is still hurt) James Russ 0-4, 7.82, 14/16 Matt Sheely .176/.236/.176 Luis Segovia .233/.226/.300 Manny Arambarris .195/.219/.308 Will Vazquez .207/.258/.276 Ryne Lawson 2-1, 6.10, 17/16 Cuts since opening day 2008: Dan Kolb, Abe Alvarez, Arbert Jimenez, Alberto Gil Quasi-cuts: Bryan Corey, Matt Miller, Julian Tavarez |
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Holdzkom with another ugly outing again tonight.
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5/26 Update
Chad Spann .207/.250/.272 Lincoln Holdzkom 3-1, 7.04, 5/18 (PawSox need to open roster spot for Kyle Snyder tommorow, Holdzkom is already on the DL) Mickey Hall .189/.302/.415 Tony G .155/.277/.197 (maybe needs some time in XST to straighten out his approach) Carlos Vasquez 1-1, 14.54, 4/3 James Russ 0-4, 7.82, 14/16 Matt Sheely .176/.263/.176 Luis Segovia .238/.233/.310 Manny Arambarris .192/.220/.290 Matt Cooney .100/.100/.200 Cuts since opening day 2008: Dan Kolb, Abe Alvarez, Arbert Jimenez, Alberto Gil, Manny Solano Quasi-cuts: Bryan Corey, Matt Miller, Julian Tavarez
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Nevermind - the Pawsox do need an open spot. Didn't realize Moss had been optioned. They might just put Lowrie on the DL for the time being if he's not
ready to go. Otherwise, it's either phantom DL for either Tejera or Ascencio, or perhaps Spann.
"they should go to soxprospect so that BOZO THE
CLOWN and the rest of THE WANTS TO BE will give you some information" - A SP.com Legend
"A doubleheader is better than tipping the other team off the side of a cliff." - Cin1010
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Moss isn't on rehab anymore, he was optioned.
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abefromen1 wrote: .164/.192/.293 v. RHP.
JOSH PHEGLEY IN 09
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Arambarris is playing 1B tonight.
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This is the second time in the last few days he has played there - he started at 1B on Sunday as well.
"they should go to soxprospect so that BOZO THE
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Posts: 4661 05/31/08 11:59 AM Moderator |
Given that he hasn't played since May 26 and has really struggled, I wonder if David Mailman might be sent back to XST and assigned to Lowell...
"they should go to soxprospect so that BOZO THE
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6/3 Update
Chad Spann .210/.250/.270 Lincoln Holdzkom INJ Mickey Hall .203/.307/.422 Carlos Vasquez 1-1, 9.35, 5/6 James Russ INJ Matt Sheely INJ Luis Segovia .217/.213/.283 Manny Arambarris .213/.238/.328 Cuts since opening day 2008: Dan Kolb, Abe Alvarez, Arbert Jimenez, Alberto Gil, Manny Solano Quasi-cuts: Bryan Corey, Matt Miller, Julian Tavarez Greenville to Lowell in late June? David Mailman David Marks Jose Alvarez Ryne Miller |
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