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Posts: 4168 04/24/08 8:19 AM The Dude |
This is NOT conirmed, but I've heard two rumors from people claiming to be in the know that Nick Hagadone will have Tommy John Surgery this week. If
so, thats terrible news. On the positive side, at least he'd be ready to go next year around his time, and would only substantively miss this season.
EDIT: Confirmed - Hagadone to have TJS on Tuesday.
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Posts: 1061 04/24/08 8:38 AM Veteran Member |
soxprospects wrote: Yikes. Hope not. If so, it confirms what someone quoted about "forearm tightness".
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templeUsox |
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Posts: 12152 04/24/08 9:03 AM Moderator |
Without having any sources on it, I'm pretty sure it's going to happen. The writing has been on the wall since he started grabbing his forearm.
BRING REESE HOME
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Posts: 12758 04/24/08 9:07 AM Moderator |
Bad news if indeed it is true. Losing both Hagadone and Bailey this early in the season hurts.
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Posts: 855 04/24/08 9:07 AM |
Damn. Well, at least there's a recovery plan, unlike Austin Bailey. We'll see him pitch next May, and be effective again in April 2010.
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templeUsox |
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Posts: 12152 04/24/08 9:10 AM Moderator |
This never would have happened if he started the year in Lancaster.
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Posts: 72 04/24/08 9:15 AM |
I really hope this isn't true but I guess it's better for it to happen early in his career than later...
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Cem21 |
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Posts: 1255 04/24/08 9:23 AM Veteran Member |
Disappointing if this is true. Hagadone has looked good thus far in his early career. If this is indeed the injury, I wonder if this will push him to the
bullpen given he'll be recovering from TJ and never really had been stretched out in his Pro Career. MDC had a similar path following TJ surgery.
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Posts: 7562 04/24/08 9:53 AM Moderator |
The odds on the 2007 draft being a strong one for the Red Sox keep getting worse...
"Since I stole that base I have not gone one day -- not one -- without someone coming and saying 'thank you.' You may never experience that, and I have it for life." -Dave Roberts
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Tundy19 |
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Posts: 141 04/24/08 9:56 AM |
This is extremely frustrating, as it seems this has been happening to the Sox too much recently. Last year it was Caleb Clay, this year it's already Bailey
and Hagadone.
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Posts: 3272 04/24/08 9:57 AM |
Oh boy...
Good luck, Nick. |
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Posts: 189 04/24/08 10:20 AM |
A little too much doom and gloom here. The recovery from TJ surgery is very good these days. Also, the Red Sox have had a very good run with almost no career
impacting injuries to pitching prospects. Bailey's injury is the first one in a while that is potentially career-threatening and we don't even have
definitive information on that. There is a huge difference between partial and full labrum tears and until we find out which it is we won't be able to
assess the full impact there.
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Posts: 4670 04/24/08 10:21 AM Moderator |
Tundy19 wrote: This happens to all teams. There was some thought that the Red Sox's training methods may lessen the possibility of injury but my guess is, like Mother Nature, there is little that we can do to prevent the inevitable wear and tear on shoulders and elbows based on the unnaturalness of whipping an arm around a body in an unnatural manner. |
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Union4Sox |
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Posts: 170 04/24/08 10:37 AM |
It is too bad though. Interesting because the thought was that Hagadone didn't have many miles on his arm and consequently this wouldn't happen. I
think amfox is right, you can't predict mother nature. Real quick--I haven't been following sox prospects closely because of thesis and what not, what
happened to Bailey? I couldn't find a link or thread about him.
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Steve Dillard |
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Posts: 855 04/24/08 10:43 AM |
Bailey tore his labrum, which is the worst form of shoulder injury to ever recover from.
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cwaaa |
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Posts: 321 04/24/08 10:51 AM |
Ah, shit. I guess it's just kind of disappointing because with so many good prospects getting their shot at the bigs, I was really looking forward to
seeing Hagadone pitch. I guess it'll probably be a while.
Free Chris Carter...
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Union4Sox |
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Posts: 170 04/24/08 11:06 AM |
I hope the TJ surgery doesn't take away from his ability to start. Although MDC turned into a reliever following TJ surgery, I don't think that was so
much because of the surgery right? I thought that was more because he couldn't throw strikes and he really only had two pitches. Maybe I'm wrong and
his control was off after the surgery. Hagadone looked like a real good bet for a starter, maybe the transition was too quick from closer to starter. Or, as I
said before, mother nature.
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Posts: 2542 04/24/08 11:27 AM |
Theo & McLeod have to push the envelope on pitching in the upcoming draft. And I said this before Bailey & Hagadone.
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Posts: 7562 04/24/08 11:28 AM Moderator |
Dreadsox2 wrote: People say that all the time and I'm just not sure it's true. How many prospects can lose 10% of their ability and still make it? How many 1/2/3
starters are there in MLB who've undergone TJ surgery and had smooth careers afterwards? Burnett? Carpenter? Is that the best-case scenario? I'm
not sure we know what the real toll is of TJ surgery on a guy's carer prospects.
And any labrum tear seems like the kiss of death to me. What prospect has suffered a labrum tear and made it as a successful MLB pitcher? Look what it did to Pedro's career. What happens if you weren't the greatest pitcher to ever walk the planet before that injury?
"Since I stole that base I have not gone one day -- not one -- without someone coming and saying 'thank you.' You may never experience that, and I have it for life." -Dave Roberts
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Posts: 112 04/24/08 11:42 AM |
Ack, I had high hopes for Hagadone development this year. Suddenly I'm not excited about much of the Sox A pitching. Clay, Bard, Doubront will be
interesting to follow, but I'd love someone else to emerge from the lower level this year. Best of luck to Hagadone and a full recovery if this is indeed
confirmed. You never know, maybe we'll see him hitting higher on the gun as a result of this next August. ;-)
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PrahaSMC |
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Posts: 362 04/24/08 11:53 AM |
AMarshal2 wrote: While there are plenty of pitchers who come back to have productive careers after TJ surgery, I agree that this is v. devestating news. The biggest unknown
in the whole equation is you simply can't predict how a guy will respond to rehab. Some pitchers bounce back as if nothing happened... but for every
Mariano Rivera/John Smoltz who make you forget they even had the surgery, there are guys like Jesse Foppert, Matt Mantei, Jeff Zimmerman, etc. who lose their
stuff entirely.
"This kind of inconsistency play goin' up against a team like New England will get you completely blowed
out."- Emmitt Smith
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